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Brocktas wrote:That's exactly how you would kill (most) of the US TV studios' problems overnight. The studios spend so much type hyping their series' up, that their fans then go online to chat about it. Only, the internet is worldwide, and if the fans in the UK wait until it's broadcast six months (or even a week) after it was shown in the US, the story will have been spoilt.
That's why hardcore fans of the series download it. And I bet they account for 80-90% of those downloading US series from the UK and rest of the world. Evidence? The UAE used to have a huge problem with this. Then one of the local providers – a company called OSN – did a deal with Fox to show all of its series an hour after they were broadcast in the US.
The result? We get next episodes of US series almost immediately (those of us who are hardcore fans have started watching it before the first person has been able to post a synopsis), so piracy sank through the floor.
I also remember seeing figures that said shows that had staggered release schedules in the US (i.e. East Coast 8pm EST and West Coast 8pm PST (so three hours after it was first broadcast in the US) have much higher rates of piracy than those shown at the same time (i.e. 10pm EST, 7pm PST).
So if they did a deal with, say, Sky Atlantic, to show the same episode no longer than 24 hours after the first showing in the US, then I bet you'd see piracy of TV shows in the UK fall away.
ApocalypseCow wrote:But even with Sky showing loads of things "the day after the States" people still pirate them because they refuse to pay for Sky ("it's too expensive, if it was £4 p/m then it'd be fair" and other nonsense arguments) There's always another excuse ready for why people download rather than watch legitimately.
MoBiUGeArSkIn wrote:Nice ideas, but surely if it were that simple these companies would just do it? There must be financial reasons why these things (obvious things) aren't available/being used?
ApocalypseCow wrote:people still pirate them because they refuse to pay ("it's too expensive, if it was £4 p/m then it'd be fair" and other nonsense arguments) There's always another excuse ready for why people download rather than watch legitimately.
MoBiUGeArSkIn wrote:But distribution for something like that is going to cost money, which leads right into Cow's point again...ApocalypseCow wrote:people still pirate them because they refuse to pay ("it's too expensive, if it was £4 p/m then it'd be fair" and other nonsense arguments) There's always another excuse ready for why people download rather than watch legitimately.
Not as if the films I listed up there are hard to come by if you're willing to pay for them. Never were. Unless they were being downloaded by Bin Laden in his bunker. I doubt The Hurt Locker was released out there, and I doubt he lived near a cinema anyway. There is that element to it.
I still don't see people who are willing to download something they have access to are going to suddenly decide they'll pay for it. Not paying for it is the whole point.
Phlashman wrote:Don't get me wrong, as I said in the first post every knows my stance on piracy. It's not good.
But this is the MPAA closing the gate 10 years after the horse bolted and is now halfway around the world. The movie studios have banded together for this pointless action when they'd be better off getting together and working out a true solution. If they all got together they could easily make a fuck ton of cash, a spotify of movies/TV with totally studio support and every film ever would dominate (as Netflix has started to do). But instead they waste time doing this. I'd pay £20-30 a month for movies which are just 2-3 months out of the cinema. I'd pay £50 a month for a cinema matched release schedule. If Apple or Google or Amazon or whoever does the whole thing, music, TV, Film and maybe throw in book and comics all you can eat for a monthly sub. I'd be there with £100 monthly. They need to give people options, ad-supported, mobile, HD, pay per view... and let the people decide how they want it, because not everyone wants the same thing.
A prime example it the other week I wanted to watch Star Wars, in HD and I was willing to even pay to watch it, but there was no way I could get it legally. One of the most popular films of all time not available anywhere. That's the problem right there.
Anyways, this is a great article on piracy that changed my outlook on it: http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/05/piracy-again.html
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