The Next Xbox Thread!

I'm guessing the way that's always worked is it records a macro of your input and then renders the game as normal but in to a video file.
I think in the future we could see proper screen recordings of any moment in the game, without having to render offline.

I'm guessing the way that's always worked is it records a macro of your input and then renders the game as normal but in to a video file.
I think in the future we could see proper screen recordings of any moment in the game, without having to render offline.

And...they should do what OnLive does. You log into xbox live, see your friendslist and see Harry online playing Forza 4. Instead of just "join game" there should be "watch game" ... as long as Harry has this option turned on, anyone on his friendlist at any moment can watch a live stream of him playing. That is 1 thing I have dreamed about for years, again, OnLive does it so well, cos you know people are watching as it says "4 people spectating" and they can thumbs up and down you as your playing.

But the potential for this is huge, it would take tournaments to the next level and a final of a tournament would be this big epic spectacle with the whole BXB community watching live and so just adding to the pressure the finalists would be feeling. Instead of the 2 finalists playing and then reporting back in the forums, BXB could even start selling tshirts with "I was there" on them after the tournaments.

I'm guessing the way that's always worked is it records a macro of your input and then renders the game as normal but in to a video file.
I think in the future we could see proper screen recordings of any moment in the game, without having to render offline.

And...they should do what OnLive does. You log into xbox live, see your friendslist and see Harry online playing Forza 4. Instead of just "join game" there should be "watch game" ... as long as Harry has this option turned on, anyone on his friendlist at any moment can watch a live stream of him playing. That is 1 thing I have dreamed about for years, again, OnLive does it so well, cos you know people are watching as it says "4 people spectating" and they can thumbs up and down you as your playing.

But the potential for this is huge, it would take tournaments to the next level and a final of a tournament would be this big epic spectacle with the whole BXB community watching live and so just adding to the pressure the finalists would be feeling. Instead of the 2 finalists playing and then reporting back in the forums, BXB could even start selling tshirts with "I was there" on them after the tournaments.

Yeah onlive is ok, you wouldnt want to anything other than watch peopel on it though,
What your saying would work.
Play game, the ARM chip records and streams the data off to live and you stream it back to your box.
Obviously you wouldn't want that happening in online matches.
Lag.....now a can of worms opens up.

Why would I want to watch someone else play a game live? I hate watching mates play a game getting it all wrong, I ban them from playing and take the controller back!

In my opinion as far this will go will be recording TV services you can get through Xbox Live while playing a game. You won't be able to play XBL at the time for obvious reasons but it means you can game and watch TV back later on. On the in game guide there will be a TV guide page to reserve programs. Really useful for when you want to play that extra 30 mins or so.

Uploading gameplay footage is useless at the moment. Yes DiRT3 did it as we're awesome but that was limited to 30 seconds and with UK upload speeds that took ages to get onto youtube at only 480p. You want to share a whole race and you can kiss a few hours gone while it uploads.

Only way they can do that is make video replay data available for others to see. Much like ghost data but more complete like what is recorded while racing for the replay if you want to view it. Problem is you need the game to render that replay.

The way I see it, you would save it to your harddrive and upload it later. PS3 currently has a built in video editor on the dash, so no reason xbox couldn't do that and you could edit replays on the dash then upload.

[Phlashman]

MCV says what I've been saying all along: http://goo.gl/dqpyY

Next Playstation and Xbox to be revealed at E3 2012, released 2013. To totally spoil the Wii U stuff.

I think its dumb to announce a console a year before it comes out.
Who cars about Wii u anyway.

Why would I want to watch someone else play a game live? I hate watching mates play a game getting it all wrong, I ban them from playing and take the controller back!

In my opinion as far this will go will be recording TV services you can get through Xbox Live while playing a game. You won't be able to play XBL at the time for obvious reasons but it means you can game and watch TV back later on. On the in game guide there will be a TV guide page to reserve programs. Really useful for when you want to play that extra 30 mins or so.

Uploading gameplay footage is useless at the moment. Yes DiRT3 did it as we're awesome but that was limited to 30 seconds and with UK upload speeds that took ages to get onto youtube at only 480p. You want to share a whole race and you can kiss a few hours gone while it uploads.

Only way they can do that is make video replay data available for others to see. Much like ghost data but more complete like what is recorded while racing for the replay if you want to view it. Problem is you need the game to render that replay.

It wont be for TV via Xbox Live as you would only be able to use that feature if you were multitasking applications and not playing online, it will be for a fully fledged Tuner in the box i'd imagine, but i suspect it will be US only and tied to a cable company.

It wont be for TV via Xbox Live as you would only be able to use that feature if you were multitasking applications and not playing online, it will be for a fully fledged Tuner in the box i'd imagine, but i suspect it will be US only and tied to a cable company.

No way! All they need to do is what PlayTV currently does on the PS3, you can record TV on your PS3 right now, doing series link etc etc and it's free once you buy the £40 addon. I've been using it to record all the F1 race weekends over the past few years. It works flawlessly can even recommend stuff to friendslist and see what your friends have been watching, again, like the capturing of video... this stuff is already out there, it's not make believe stuff or US only anymore. This is exciting, cos Microsoft do it, SONY will do it and Steam will add video capture too. So next gen is gonna be the dream of capturing gameplay in any game! We need a screenshot button like Steam has with the ability to upload to your xbox live profile, again, the current consoles kinda have this feature only it's not required of all games.

My TV has USB external hard disk recording.
Using something like a ps3 seems so...2006

It wont be for TV via Xbox Live as you would only be able to use that feature if you were multitasking applications and not playing online, it will be for a fully fledged Tuner in the box i'd imagine, but i suspect it will be US only and tied to a cable company.

No way! All they need to do is what PlayTV currently does on the PS3, you can record TV on your PS3 right now, doing series link etc etc and it's free once you buy the £40 addon. I've been using it to record all the F1 race weekends over the past few years. It works flawlessly can even recommend stuff to friendslist and see what your friends have been watching, again, like the capturing of video... this stuff is already out there, it's not make believe stuff or US only anymore. This is exciting, cos Microsoft do it, SONY will do it and Steam will add video capture too. So next gen is gonna be the dream of capturing gameplay in any game! We need a screenshot button like Steam has with the ability to upload to your xbox live profile, again, the current consoles kinda have this feature only it's not required of all games.

Exactly what I said Kevin, you won't be able to play games and record content from sky on your Xbox for example (it's the only app that does live tv in the uk) so it would need some sort of tuner either built in or separate, I'd wager they will go full DVR for a large cable co in the states to replace set top boxes with the nextbox.

For streaming tv it has to handle too much to do it in the background and streaming rights are far too complicated when compared to traditional tv broadcasts.

Exactly what I said Kevin, you won't be able to play games and record content from sky on your Xbox for example (it's the only app that does live tv in the uk) so it would need some sort of tuner either built in or separate, I'd wager they will go full DVR for a large cable co in the states to replace set top boxes with the nextbox.

For streaming tv it has to handle too much to do it in the background and streaming rights are far too complicated when compared to traditional tv broadcasts.

I see!

I just had a thought, Imagine if XBOX or SONY got the F1 HD channel and released an App. That would be perfect, £10 a month or something and watch F1 in HD on ya console I'd do it.

I also just read rumours about the next XBOX having a Tablet with it, like the Wii U. It will be a Kinect 2.0, base unit, controllers and a Tablet device ... hmm! This could open the way for them to have games you play on ya TV and then take with you on the go and carry on playing. It's starting to get really interesting, if they have the DVR built in etc, they will probably stream the content to the tablet as well for you to watch!

Wouldn't having a tablet accessory be totally against what kinect is all about. They are more likely to do some sort of tie in with windows phone if anything.

[Born2beSlicker]

It's not down to what Sony want though, yeah they want to make it through to 2013 or 14 but they can't afford to be late again. It's probably in MS's interest to force their hand and make Sony rush something out in 2012. MS are probably better positioned to do something in 2012. Plus there's the advantage of nullifying Nintendo's plan with the Wii U.

Just imagine, Xmas 2013. Sony has a new console with a few launch quality titles and a expensive console, that isn't that much more powerful for the extra year in development. Coming up against a console (maybe 2) with a full years worth of games, running on more refined game engines with the possibility of a one year/price cut or bundle?

Sony: "No announcement of PS4 at E3 2012".

I never thought they would, but MCV claim it was happening. 2013/2014 is when PS4 will start to exist in the public eye.

It's not down to what Sony want though, yeah they want to make it through to 2013 or 14 but they can't afford to be late again. It's probably in MS's interest to force their hand and make Sony rush something out in 2012. MS are probably better positioned to do something in 2012. Plus there's the advantage of nullifying Nintendo's plan with the Wii U.

Just imagine, Xmas 2013. Sony has a new console with a few launch quality titles and a expensive console, that isn't that much more powerful for the extra year in development. Coming up against a console (maybe 2) with a full years worth of games, running on more refined game engines with the possibility of a one year/price cut or bundle?

Sony: "No announcement of PS4 at E3 2012".

I never thought they would, but MCV claim it was happening. 2013/2014 is when PS4 will start to exist in the public eye.

MCV's contacts are second to none. Sony will announce it, because they have to.

Because Microsoft will be launching the next Xbox.

Because Nintendo will be showing off the Wii U.

Because it can't be the last to launch again.

Microsoft will launch the next Xbox at this year's E3, because it's sister magazine Develop's contacts in the industry will be developing for it already, and will have been told to prepare something for E3. That's how MCV will know.