The Next Xbox Thread!

[Phlashman]

Spot on Harry, having an always on mode screams ARM, then switching on cores when heavy work is needed. ARM has been working on chips for that type of setup for quite a while.

It also means they could sell a cheap Apple TV/Roku/Google TV type version very cheap or offer it as a platform for TV makers to put directly in their TVs.

But on the other hand, potentially having 3 PowerPC cores (from the current 360), a ARM core for a low power mode and then 4-8 x86 type cores all in one machine... sounds like it could be a bit of a nightmare to code for.

Spot on Harry, having an always on mode screams ARM, then switching on cores when heavy work is needed. ARM has been working on chips for that type of setup for quite a while.

It also means they could sell a cheap Apple TV/Roku/Google TV type version very cheap or offer it as a platform for TV makers to put directly in their TVs.

But on the other hand, potentially having 3 PowerPC cores (from the current 360), a ARM core for a low power mode and then 4-8 x86 type cores all in one machine... sounds like it could be a bit of a nightmare to code for.

It's either going to be the most amazing thermal design ever or we are all going to have to put up with some serious fan noise.
That I think is going to be very strange in the world of silent laptops,tablets ,phones and whatever else people use to interact with.

I'm really not sure they will put in separate powerpc cores for backward compatibility. So expensive, effectively putting a 360 inside the new box. That would indeed be a complete nightmare.
With Microsofts last experience of backwards compatibility being very limited but still acceptable to the gamers I think thats either a wishlist or written out of the design already.
Surely software comparability would be a better way to go. Expensive and troublesome but still workable enough to get the punters into spend some cash for the upgrade,

The last generation though only really had HALO 2.
Now there are an extreme hardcore online in their millions ,day in ,day out playing games like COD. It's going to be difficult to get that crowd to ditch COD within at least the first 12 months.
Unless of course, like the 360, COD launches with the console, and I believe it'll be infinity wards turn that year?

no backwards compatibility please.........its a pointless waste of resources that only a small few actually ever use.

no backwards compatibility please.........its a pointless waste of resources that only a small few actually ever use.

Alot would use it in the first year.
I'm sure next cycle the development time for games is probably going to end up being +1 year on top of what they are now.

A lot would still have their 360s they don't need to offer backwards compatibility

[Phlashman]

Backwards compatability is a waste of time, very few people use it. Even less do a year or two into the consoles life.

[Born2beSlicker]

They're going to need to enforce Backwards Compatibility because of the games you can buy on the Marketplace. People would be pissed if they didn't cross over.

Given the money made on HD remakes and the like, backward compatibility makes zero business sense.

[MoBiUGeArSkIn]

But how can you re-issue a HD remake of a HD game that already looks great?

Backwards compatibility should be a given. Even the 3DS takes DS carts, I bought three Castlevania games the other day for dirt cheap and can enjoy them without pissing around with emulators etc.

But how can you re-issue a HD remake of a HD game that already looks great?

Backwards compatibility should be a given. Even the 3DS takes DS carts, I bought three Castlevania games the other day for dirt cheap and can enjoy them without pissing around with emulators etc.

Sorry but that old time idea that a console needs to have the ability to play past games is just daft. It makes no real sense to support something that very few take advantage of at all. XBLA titles can be updated and that is if they are popular it would make no sense in supporting updates for games hardly anyone plays.

Backwards compatibility is not needed the 360 will do what the PS2 did and the new console will slowly be phased in as the price drops.

[MoBiUGeArSkIn]

The Wii plays GameCube, the 3DS plays DS and the Wii U will play Wii.

There are so many games available and every now and again you'll come across something you missed, or perhaps a sequel will be on the cards which encourages you to root out the predecessor. You could argue that such a thing could be released as a download, but then who is going to work on that? If the console could just play the game by default it's problem solved.

I have an absolute boat load of 360 games. If I have to keep the 360 in case I decide to play them one day it'll annoy me.

Mobi we all know you wont bother playing them

[MoBiUGeArSkIn]

But I might. And there's some games that I would. I'd imagine the people who play COD and all the popular Live games would also continue to play them in droves until the Next Gen sequel was released.

[Born2beSlicker]

Should Steam stop selling old games like Rainbow Six Raven Shield and stuff because they're old? When you're on PC, you can make almost every game run. The ones that can't, you can mod/hack to work on an older OS.

The problem with the 360 BC support was that it is emulation due to the GPU companies having a fight. If the Xbox 3 has better terms, it should be a much easier BC support so the effort won't be there like it was on 360.

I think backwards compatibility will be more important on the next systems, just cos so many of our games are now digital. They should make sure any digital 360 games and xbox live arcade games work on the next one. I would be sad if the digital games at least are not supported. Physical games I can understand not being supported if Microsoft go with a new format.